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Diego_Atos - 15 Nov 2004 08:07 GMT
I have to manage a very large database on a remote server.

Wich is the best dbms? Oracle, Ms SQL or what else (obviously not
access)?

Thanx

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Rob Tweed - 15 Nov 2004 23:14 GMT
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>I have to manage a very large database on a remote server.
>
>Wich is the best dbms? Oracle, Ms SQL or what else (obviously not
>access)?
>
>Thanx

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Christopher Browne - 16 Nov 2004 01:04 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when Diego_Atos <didi_diego@POTAbigfoot.com> would write:
> I have to manage a very large database on a remote server.
>
> Wich is the best dbms? Oracle, Ms SQL or what else (obviously not
> access)?

You would have to give a great deal more information about the nature
of your application for someone to be able to fit it in with their
prejudices about which DBMS they might prefer.
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Thug Passion - 16 Nov 2004 03:54 GMT
> I have to manage a very large database on a remote server.
> Wich is the best dbms? Oracle, Ms SQL or what else (obviously not
> access)?

If you're already using Access, go with SQL Server.  It's the most
similar, especially as far as SQL language itself, so the skills you
have will translate more from Access to SQL Server than to Oracle or
InterBase.  ( Both of which are better products, but a lot more
different than even SQL is. )
Nisar Tareen - 16 Nov 2004 15:22 GMT
Atos,

As of Last of year I had seen a comparion by someone with SQL server
and Oracle, the conslusion was Oracle is a much more database with the
functionalites  and worth of money.

I have been managing databases over the years and had managed database
of Tera byte and it was under oracle.

I had worked with  SQL/DS , DB2, DL1, Adabas and Oracle  database
Management system and I can say it  with confident that Oracle is much
more robust , reliable, scalable and manageble than others.

Nisar Tareen


> I have to manage a very large database on a remote server.
>
> Wich is the best dbms? Oracle, Ms SQL or what else (obviously not
> access)?
>
> Thanx
Diego_Atos - 16 Nov 2004 19:12 GMT
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> Nisar Tareen
>  

thanx you all

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michael newport - 16 Nov 2004 21:04 GMT
check out Ingres at www.ca.com

it does the same as Oracle and its free.
Jim Kennedy - 17 Nov 2004 02:24 GMT
> check out Ingres at www.ca.com
>
> it does the same as Oracle and its free.
Oh come on Mike.  You know it isn't the same.  Its free because no one would
buy it.   Gee I wonder why? (rhetorical question)
Thomas Kellerer - 17 Nov 2004 09:36 GMT
>>check out Ingres at www.ca.com
>>
>>it does the same as Oracle and its free.
>
> Oh come on Mike.  You know it isn't the same.  Its free because no one would
> buy it.   Gee I wonder why? (rhetorical question)

So MySQL is free as well, because nobody would buy it?
michael newport - 17 Nov 2004 12:32 GMT
So what can we agree on ?

Oracle has a few more check boxes (but I have never needed them)

Ingres has been around this long because it works perfectly well.

CA made a mistake in taking their time to OpenSource Ingres,
but now that they have, people can take full advantage of NOT paying for it.

Oracle costs a lot of money.

These reasons make Ingres the best large database on the net.

Regards
Michael Newport
Tom Hester - 17 Nov 2004 16:09 GMT
The reason that Oracle is the best at large applications, Ingres is
free, Informix is semi-retired, and Sybase is now only a niche player is
because only Oracle supports row-level locking.

> So what can we agree on ?
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Regards
> Michael Newport
-P- - 17 Nov 2004 17:15 GMT
> The reason that Oracle is the best at large applications, Ingres is free, Informix is semi-retired, and Sybase is now
> only a niche player is because only Oracle supports row-level locking.

Get your facts straight...

Sybase ASE and ASA (iAnywhere) both support row-level locking.
Sybase has a demonstrated higher TPC benchmarks and a lower TCO than both Oracle and DB2.
http://www.sybase.com/content/1019951/ASE1252_DSV2.pdf

From a personal perspective, I've developed applications on nearly all major dbms platforms.  Sybase is a joy to work
with, and Oracle is a complete PITA.

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michael newport - 19 Nov 2004 13:11 GMT
> The reason that Oracle is the best at large applications, Ingres is
> free, Informix is semi-retired, and Sybase is now only a niche player is
> because only Oracle supports row-level locking.

not true.

Ingres also supports row-level locking.
 
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