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NurAzije - 18 Mar 2005 21:04 GMT Best Regards,
I worked on Oracle for a long time, but I have a problem with it, it is not cheap for bussiness.. Does anyone please knows any OpenSource Database powerful as Oracle, and have the most capablities Oracle Database have..
Thank you in advance ..
Paul - 18 Mar 2005 21:48 GMT >I worked on Oracle for a long time, but I have a problem with it, it is >not cheap for bussiness.. >Does anyone please knows any OpenSource Database powerful as Oracle, >and have the most capablities Oracle Database have.. The ones worth considering are Firebird and PostgreSQL. MySQL is not up to scratch yet as a robust RDBMS.
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michaelnewport@yahoo.com - 21 Mar 2005 20:01 GMT > >I worked on Oracle for a long time, but I have a problem with it, it is > >not cheap for bussiness.. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Paul... but you forgot Ingres !!
Paul - 23 Mar 2005 14:09 GMT >> The ones worth considering are Firebird and PostgreSQL. MySQL is not >> up to scratch yet as a robust RDBMS.
>but you forgot Ingres !! I took a look at their site, and it appears (to me at least) that you still have to purchase it to use it, even though they've open sourced it.
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Noel - 19 Mar 2005 00:50 GMT >Best Regards, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Thank you in advance .. I would agree with Paul that your choices are either PostgreSQL or Firebird. Of the two, PostgreSQL might be the easier for you to get to grips with, as pl/pgsql is very similar to pl/sql in many ways. Firebird has the advantage of a much smaller footprint but lacks some of the power of Postgres. MySQL may be open source , but requires licensing for commercial use, and is, IMHO, a little less mature than the two options mentioned above.
NurAzije - 19 Mar 2005 07:00 GMT Does Firebird and postgreSQL have reports and forms in it as Oracle ?
Paul - 19 Mar 2005 15:43 GMT >Does Firebird and postgreSQL have reports and forms in it as Oracle ? No, unfortunately not. You could use Delphi though, or C++ Builder with native components with which you can write pretty much any programme you want against your database.
If you've ever used the TOAD, that's written in Delphi. You could also take a look at wxwidgets.
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NurAzije - 20 Mar 2005 07:54 GMT Can I use Java for that, I need a good GUI, or what else can I use with a good simple GUI, for example maybe Flash application ??
Paul - 20 Mar 2005 08:30 GMT >Can I use Java for that, Yes, you use Java if you wish.
> I need a good GUI, or what else can I use with >a good simple GUI, for example maybe Flash application ?? Flash is for the web - I'm not sure what you're talking about here.
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Noel - 20 Mar 2005 11:24 GMT >Can I use Java for that, I need a good GUI, or what else can I use with >a good simple GUI, for example maybe Flash application ?? There are good JDBC Level 4 drivers for both Firebird and PostgreSQL, so Java is definitely an option.
NurAzije - 20 Mar 2005 12:45 GMT Thank you very mush for your posts ... I will use Java, about the flash I so some new small applications workin' made by flash, it copies and deletes files and manip. w/files and other things..
DA Morgan - 20 Mar 2005 18:49 GMT > Can I use Java for that, I need a good GUI, or what else can I use with > a good simple GUI, for example maybe Flash application ?? Why not PHP? In many respects it is far superior to Java.
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Noel - 20 Mar 2005 22:43 GMT >> Can I use Java for that, I need a good GUI, or what else can I use with >> a good simple GUI, for example maybe Flash application ?? > >Why not PHP? In many respects it is far superior to Java. Having used both, I would say, that with the exception of the more complex deployment for servlets, it is more a case of which you happen to prefer. However, the OP did say that he needs a good GUI, and, leaving aside the web apps, PHP can not produce any sort of GUI apps. Java, on the other hand, can.
Christopher Browne - 21 Mar 2005 02:06 GMT In the last exciting episode, Noel <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> Can I use Java for that, I need a good GUI, or what else can I use >>> with a good simple GUI, for example maybe Flash application ?? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and, leaving aside the web apps, PHP can not produce any sort of GUI > apps. Java, on the other hand, can. That is _quite_ incorrect.
PHP can be and is used to produce GUI applications, directly, using GTK <http://gtk.php.net/>, as well as indirectly, using the GTK-Server framework (akin to the way dt-ksh graphical apps worked).
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Noel - 21 Mar 2005 08:39 GMT >In the last exciting episode, Noel <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >GTK <http://gtk.php.net/>, as well as indirectly, using the GTK-Server >framework (akin to the way dt-ksh graphical apps worked) I stand corrected. I had come across that option before, but it slipped my mind.
Thomas Kellerer - 21 Mar 2005 08:51 GMT >>Having used both, I would say, that with the exception of the more >>complex deployment for servlets, it is more a case of which you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > GTK <http://gtk.php.net/>, as well as indirectly, using the GTK-Server > framework (akin to the way dt-ksh graphical apps worked). That sounds interesting, does this work on Windows as well? (with GTK being a Linux thing AFAIK)
Thomas
NurAzije - 21 Mar 2005 17:32 GMT Are there some real-life examples, some projects with GTK-PHP ? It seems very good and new..
Christopher Browne - 22 Mar 2005 04:22 GMT Clinging to sanity, "NurAzije" <nurazije@gmail.com> mumbled into her beard:
> Are there some real-life examples, some projects with GTK-PHP ? > It seems very good and new.. See: <http://gtk.php.net/apps/>
There are numerous applications listed...
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Christopher Browne - 21 Mar 2005 21:19 GMT >>>Having used both, I would say, that with the exception of the more >>>complex deployment for servlets, it is more a case of which you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > That sounds interesting, does this work on Windows as well? (with GTK being a > Linux thing AFAIK) GTK isn't a "Linux thing," so I don't see why not.
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Lemming - 23 Mar 2005 01:21 GMT >>> Can I use Java for that, I need a good GUI, or what else can I use with >>> a good simple GUI, for example maybe Flash application ?? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >and, leaving aside the web apps, PHP can not produce any sort of GUI >apps. Java, on the other hand, can. Having just developed a GUI in PHP as a replacement for an Oracle Forms app, I have to disagree. Of course, it might depend what you mean by "GUI".
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NurAzije - 23 Mar 2005 08:19 GMT So for now I see Ingres is something like Oracle, and need Java or PHP for GUI .
NurAzije - 23 Mar 2005 08:25 GMT Ingres ?? from where to download it, is it 100% free, an Open Source ?
DA Morgan - 23 Mar 2005 17:04 GMT > So for now I see Ingres is something like Oracle, and need Java or PHP > for GUI . Something like Oracle? Depends on how you define "something." If you are referring to the fact that it has tables and SQL yes. If you were refering to capabilities such as rewrite, interMedia, Spatial, user defined object data types, high availability I'd say in different universes.
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NurAzije - 24 Mar 2005 07:32 GMT Maybe better to say like Oracle Database with forms and reports just ;)
Noel - 20 Mar 2005 11:24 GMT >Does Firebird and postgreSQL have reports and forms in it as Oracle ? Nope, but I guessed you know that. Neither does MySQL.
michaelnewport@yahoo.com - 21 Mar 2005 20:05 GMT > Best Regards, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thank you in advance .. I agree they charge a lot of money.
You need Ingres. I have worked on both and Ingres does the same except it is free. www.ca.com
Paul - 23 Mar 2005 14:13 GMT >You need Ingres. >I have worked on both and Ingres does the same except it is free. >www.ca.com Where can I download this? I've looked at their site and it is far from obvious.
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Paul - 23 Mar 2005 14:18 GMT >You need Ingres. >I have worked on both and Ingres does the same except it is free. >www.ca.com Found it
http://opensource.ca.com/projects/ingres/files/aa.int.wnt.ga
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