Objectified Relational Mapping

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Evan Keel - 09 Jun 2008 18:53 GMT

What the hell is objectivied relational mapping? Can anyone point me to
references? I've Googled, but nothing. My client insists that the db act as
an object broker. What does this mean?
Thanks in advance...

Evan

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Bob Badour - 09 Jun 2008 20:47 GMT

> What the hell is objectivied relational mapping? Can anyone point me to
> references? I've Googled, but nothing. My client insists that the db act as
> an object broker. What does this mean?
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Evan

Search on CORBA and ORB and ODBMS.

Why does your client insist on anything so stupid?

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Evan Keel - 09 Jun 2008 21:07 GMT

> > What the hell is objectivied relational mapping? Can anyone point me to
> > references? I've Googled, but nothing. My client insists that the db act as
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> Why does your client insist on anything so stupid?

I just got the email this morning. So before I respond I need to know what
the heck objectivied relational mapping is. Is it really stupid? Thanks
Bob for the Googel search terms..

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Bob Badour - 09 Jun 2008 21:31 GMT

>>>What the hell is objectivied relational mapping? Can anyone point me to
>>>references? I've Googled, but nothing. My client insists that the db act as
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> the heck objectivied relational mapping is. Is it really stupid? Thanks
> Bob for the Googel search terms..

It is mostly the impetus for D & D to articulate the Two Great Blunders.

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Evan Keel - 09 Jun 2008 21:34 GMT

> >>>What the hell is objectivied relational mapping? Can anyone point me to
> >>>references? I've Googled, but nothing. My client insists that the db act as
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> It is mostly the impetus for D & D to articulate the Two Great Blunders.

I know Date. Who is the other D? Darwin?

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Bob Badour - 09 Jun 2008 22:16 GMT

>>>>>What the hell is objectivied relational mapping? Can anyone point me to
>>>>>references? I've Googled, but nothing. My client insists that the db
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> I know Date. Who is the other D? Darwin?

yes, Hugh Darwen

See _The Third Manifesto_

When folks reference D&D around here, they usually mean TTM; even
though, the two have collaborated on a lot of other works.

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Marshall - 10 Jun 2008 06:09 GMT

> What the hell is objectivied relational mapping?

I can state with a fairly high degree of confidence that there is
no such thing; that exact term probably was first typed in when
your client sent you that email; or perhaps when you typed you
question.

I can also state with a fairly high degree of confidence that
what the term is supposed to be is "object/relational mapping."
That is, simply that ol' voodoo that lets OO programmers
avoid learning anything while taking very poor advantage of
a relational dbms.

Marshall

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Cimode - 10 Jun 2008 11:55 GMT

> What the hell is objectivied relational mapping?

One of the numerous disease that plagues database management.

> Evan

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Evan Keel - 10 Jun 2008 14:38 GMT

Thanks for the responses. UGH!. I have turned down the project.

Evan

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paul c - 12 Jun 2008 17:11 GMT

>> What the hell is objectivied relational mapping? Can anyone point me to
>> references? I've Googled, but nothing. My client insists that the db act
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> Evan

Run, don't walk!

I have the impression that some or all of the original motivation for
the 'object broker' movement had to do with physical problems, such as a
desire for remote execution. Also that much of the delay in bringing
out the 'open-source' mozilla, eg., firefox, had to do with
underestimating the effort to give it a portable programming interface.
(I saw a couple of projects go awry because they assumed one or two
developers could take care of all portability issues.) Interested to
hear comments, especially as to how this movement might pertain to db
engines.

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