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Alan Lawrance - 23 Jan 2004 21:19 GMT
Can anyone explain how Cytrix works ... I want to access my FM databases
thru a Cytrix Server.

What are the advantages?

What are the drawbacks?

Can you print reports when accessing the database from a remote location via
cytrix to the remote printer?

What software would have to be on the FMPro computer that hosts the fp5
files?

FMPRo Server?
FMPro 100 license copy?
What is the recommended OPerating System for the host Computer?

Many thanks to replies.

Al Lawrance.
David Herman - 24 Jan 2004 00:06 GMT
I've included a link to FileMaker's information on Citrix. The advantages to
using a terminal services application is the deployment. If all of the users
are connecting via terminal services then you only have one computer to
perform upgrades on. You will need a computer for FileMaker Server and also
a computer to host the files with a specially licensed copy of FileMaker. In
fact, I believe you'll have to actually call FileMaker for a license key.
You can't just purchase a standard license to FileMaker Pro. The computer
hosting the files will have Citrix Metaframe Server installed on it and you
will want to run it on Windows 2000 Server. The clients will be able to
print reports at the remote printer. That's just a configuration in the
Citrix or terminal services client. The only drawback that I'm aware of
would be that FileMaker plugins won't work. It would be better to read the
info at their website.

Dave

http://www.filemaker.com/support/citrix_metaframe.html

> Can anyone explain how Cytrix works ... I want to access my FM databases
> thru a Cytrix Server.
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> Al Lawrance.
John Weinshel - 24 Jan 2004 02:01 GMT
I'm not certain it's completely clear from what David is writing that Citrix
requires Terminal Server. Some of the advantages that Citrix, a proprietary
layer added to TS, has over TS in Windows 2000 Server, became less obvious
in TS in Windows 2003 Server, which allows the use of local printers,
mapping to the local drive, and even sound, as well as full depth color
(Win2K was limited to 256). In any of these combinations, Filemaker Pro
requires a VLA ('Volume License Agreement'), which can be purchased directly
from FMI, or from some other vendors.

TS, even by itself, provides a remarkably fast connection for Filemaker,
which offers notoriously slow performance when remotely accessed directly
via TCP/IP. It is a bit tricky to set up, and Citrix adds yet more
complexity (and performance), but I find the result is well worth the
trouble and expense.

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(206) 463-1634
Associate Member, Filemaker Solutions Alliance

> I've included a link to FileMaker's information on Citrix. The advantages to
> using a terminal services application is the deployment. If all of the users
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> > Al Lawrance.
David Herman - 25 Jan 2004 01:18 GMT
To clarify, Citrix works in conjunction to Terminal Services. Basically, it
adds additional features to it as well as support for more OS's.

Dave Herman

> I'm not certain it's completely clear from what David is writing that Citrix
> requires Terminal Server. Some of the advantages that Citrix, a proprietary
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> > > Al Lawrance.
tooler888 - 29 Jan 2004 18:58 GMT
John,

Will this scenario work?

Install VLA on Citrix machine.  Run two PC workstations at a remote
site with access to the LAN that the Citrix machine is on - obviously.

Will the FMPRO clients running via Citrix be able to connect and work
with FMPro Server 5.5 running on OS9 machine that is on the same LAN
as the Citrix machine?

Thanks so much for your input.

> I'm not certain it's completely clear from what David is writing that Citrix
> requires Terminal Server. Some of the advantages that Citrix, a proprietary
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> complexity (and performance), but I find the result is well worth the
> trouble and expense.
Jay Gonzales - 27 Jan 2004 01:37 GMT
> Can anyone explain how Cytrix works ... I want to access my FM databases
> thru a Cytrix Server.
>
> What are the advantages?

Useful for serving fat applications.  Terminals were one benefit of
mainframe technology that got ignored as people moved to Client-Server
and the Web.
So, you don't need the application running on the remote machine(s),
but you can still support remote FileMaker users who are covered under
your Volume License Agreement.

As with other Terminal systems (Timbuktu, PCAnywhere, Windows Terminal
Services), the Citrix data stream is encrypted.   With normal
FileMaker client access to a FM Server, the data stream is not
encrypted, without a VPN.

> What are the drawbacks?

Terminal access doesn't enable you to work "offline".  ;-)

> Can you print reports when accessing the database from a remote location via
> cytrix to the remote printer?

You're asking if can you print on *your* local printer (at your remote
site), right?  You can print on your local printer. This involves a
network-accessible printer, and setting up the correct
WAN/VPN/firewall access on both ends.
 
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