> Galen Boyer wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, damorgan@x.washington.edu wrote:
> >
> >>All SPAM is bad spam. I don't care if you are giving it away
> >>for free. I don't care if you personally show up, install it,
> >>configure it train on it, and then give me a check for $50: It
> >>is still spam.
> >
> > I'm on the fence on this one.  What is different from what this
> > guy posted and what Jonathan Lewis posts every month?
>
> I will gladly answer that one. Jonathan posts in response to posts
> by other people asking for help solving a problem or requesting
> clarification.
>
> Not once has he just posted marketing in and of itself.
> Not once has he referred anyone to his company as the solution to a problem.
> Not once has he said "come take my class for the answer."
>
> Jonathan may use a line or two more than I and others do to
> indicate what he does and who he is but he isn't posting purely,
> or I suspect even incidentally, in the hope of make a sale or
> driving someone to his web site so he can sell them something.
>
> A free product or give-away to get people to come to your for-profit
> site is marketing at is most basic level. "Come on down to our used
> car dealership and we will give you a toaster" is marketing. So is
> "Come to our web site and download SPAM-DB 1.6 for free." In both
> cases the motive is transparent.
>
> The DB2 and Informix groups have their rules and they should be
> respected. The Oracle group's rules should be too. And if spammers
> aren't made to pay a price for what they do it just encourages them
> to spam more and for others to do so too. You really don't want me,
> and every other consultant, posting our advertising here. Really!
>
> --
> Daniel Morgan
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