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Database Forum / Informix Topics / November 2004More on Informix from Bloor Research.
Hi All, I need a very very strong strong drink. Last time I was this surprised was when spurs won the league even though I was not born :-) Makes interesting reading. Comments please and more noise people. More noise :-) http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12379 Traveller >Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Traveller Interesting article . . . I liked the final quote where . . . . "To conclude: there is good news and there is good news - on the one hand there is new technology emerging to support Informix users, while on the other IBM is listening." Think IBM is listening? Seems that way . . . JWC >>Hi All, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Think IBM is listening? Seems that way . . . One bit of bad news, IBM will not support Coppereye in the same way that Informix supported Excaliber. This means that if there is a problem IBM and Coppereye will be finger pointing all over out cringing heads. Ah well, nothing's perfect. Art S. Kagel Art, It's too early to know exactly how Coppereye will be supported by IBM. We (i.e. developement) didn't even know about Coppereye until the last user conference. M.P. > >>Hi All, > >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Art S. Kagel Tell tech support please. Word here is we called IBM support and they said basically "It wasn't invented here and we didn't work with them on it, so we're not supporting it." Art S. Kagel > Art, > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> Art S. Kagel > Tell tech support please. Word here is we called IBM support and they > said > basically "It wasn't invented here and we didn't work with them on it, so > we're not supporting it." In fact, one of the top Informix technicians at IBM UK worked extensively with them and with test sites in the UK to integrate their technology into an Informix database. inthe words of inspector cleauseau.... does your dog bite... that is not my dog..... > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Art S. Kagel > For those of us who didn't go to the conference - what's coppereye? --- Madison Pruet <mpruet@comcast.net> wrote: > Art, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > "Art S. Kagel" <kagel@bloomberg.net> wrote in > message news:pan.2004.11.11.08.50.25.907379.1355@bloomberg.net... > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:44:13 -0500, John Carlson > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > > > Art S. Kagel ===== Rob Vorbroker Phone: 513/336-8695 Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: 513/336-6812 www.vorbroker.com robv@vorbroker.com sending to informix-list Here is the first hit I got on google... http://www.coppereye.com/ This talks about it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-informix-list@iiug.org [mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Vorbroker Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:45 PM To: Madison Pruet; informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: More on Informix from Bloor Research. For those of us who didn't go to the conference - what's coppereye? --- Madison Pruet <mpruet@comcast.net> wrote: > Art, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > "Art S. Kagel" <kagel@bloomberg.net> wrote in > message news:pan.2004.11.11.08.50.25.907379.1355@bloomberg.net... > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:44:13 -0500, John Carlson > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > > > Art S. Kagel ===== Rob Vorbroker Phone: 513/336-8695 Vorbroker Consulting, Inc. Fax: 513/336-6812 www.vorbroker.com robv@vorbroker.com sending to informix-list sending to informix-list -----Original Message----- From: owner-informix-list@iiug.org [mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Art S. Kagel Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:29 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: More on Informix from Bloor Research. >On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:51:08 -0500, Madison Pruet wrote: > >Tell tech support please. Word here is we called IBM support and they said >basically "It wasn't invented here and we didn't work with them on it, so >we're not supporting it." > >Art S. Kagel We can write books - I have the same problem with SUN - and IBM ....... Almost gives fingerpointing a new meaning .... sending to informix-list Traveller2003 said: > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12379 My favourite bit was probably "significant internal debate within IBM" ... yeah, right.  SignatureBye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ? dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche "I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't get my head up my a.s" - JCH "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di cazzo" - Marco I went to the airport to check in and they asked what I did because I looked like a terrorist. I said I was a comedian. They said, "Say something funny then." I told them I had just graduated from flying school. -- Ahmed Ahmed sending to informix-list John Carlson said: > Think IBM is listening? Seems that way . . . Yes, but to whom? SignatureBye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ? dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche "I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't get my head up my a.s" - JCH "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di cazzo" - Marco I went to the airport to check in and they asked what I did because I looked like a terrorist. I said I was a comedian. They said, "Say something funny then." I told them I had just graduated from flying school. -- Ahmed Ahmed sending to informix-list Let me start off by saying that I don't want to piss in anyone's chips... Art S. Kagel said: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:45:02 -0500, Rob Vorbroker wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > not > seriously impacted. That means you can add dozens of indexes and data Search speed is not seriously impacted for certain kinds of queries. It is definitely visibly impacted on some types of queries. > load > speed is still several orders of magnitude faster than using BTREE > indexes. But several orders of magnitude slower than an unindexed table. > Means you can add indexes to optimize currently marginal queries which you > had been avoiding doing because of the impact on data maintenance windows. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > just > under an hour! I had a very different experience with a database where the DB design skills weren't quite in Art Kagel country. :o) Consequently, in that, more usual, environment, we didn't see anything quite as impressive and decisive as Art found. YAMMV and all that! By all means, test it and if it works, that is really great -- but it isn't necessarily a panacea and may require some database design rework. SignatureBye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ? dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche "I'm trying to see things your way, but I can't get my head up my a.s" - JCH "Ogni uomo mi guarda come se fossi una testa di cazzo" - Marco I went to the airport to check in and they asked what I did because I looked like a terrorist. I said I was a comedian. They said, "Say something funny then." I told them I had just graduated from flying school. -- Ahmed Ahmed sending to informix-list |
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