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Who is the competition?

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mweallans@panacea.co.uk - 27 May 2005 16:59 GMT
At a recent Infobahn in London there were numerous references to the
main competition for IDS being Oracle.  In fact so much attention was
spent on this that I began thinking we were backed in the days of the
billboard wars on 101.

I would like to see a proper survey done of all of the current Informix
user base as to who they consider to be the most likely database server
they would move to.  Maybe then we can get a good picture of the real
situation.

regards

Malcolm
Neil Truby - 27 May 2005 18:29 GMT
> At a recent Infobahn in London there were numerous references to the
> main competition for IDS being Oracle.  In fact so much attention was
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> they would move to.  Maybe then we can get a good picture of the real
> situation.

Each of the first two speakers, both of whom mentioned Oracle as "the
competition", were US-based.  Perhaps Oracle is the main competition in the
United States.  Certainly the first guy in particular seemed surprised when
we all told him that in our experience the users are haemorrhaging to SQL
Server, not Oracle ...
Ben Thompson - 31 May 2005 12:00 GMT
> Each of the first two speakers, both of whom mentioned Oracle as "the
> competition", were US-based.  Perhaps Oracle is the main competition in the
> United States.  Certainly the first guy in particular seemed surprised when
> we all told him that in our experience the users are haemorrhaging to SQL
> Server, not Oracle ...

We use IDS for our OLTP application which we sell as a package to our
customers. Most customers accept what we recommend but in both the US
and UK some customers expect MS SQL Server for various reasons, the main
one being their internal IT policy. Other reasons are nice GUI, IT
skills, comfort factors.

We absolutely have to have replication of some form and we use HDR for
replication with IDS which works very well. With MSSQL there are two
options (sort of) suitable for us: transactional replication (this is a
pig to maintain and severely disruptive if the schema changes) and
clustering (expensive). So MSSQL loses for good sound reasons and
usually we manage to sell IDS. But for us the pressure is definitely to
use MSSQL from some quarters. No-one has ever specifically requested any
other DBMS, IDS included.

Ben.
Paul Watson - 31 May 2005 12:07 GMT
In Denver the consensus was Oracle was the bigger problem, but as you
point out it does seem to depend on which side of the pond you are on

Cheers
Paul

>>At a recent Infobahn in London there were numerous references to the
>>main competition for IDS being Oracle.  In fact so much attention was
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> we all told him that in our experience the users are haemorrhaging to SQL
> Server, not Oracle ...

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Obnoxio The Clown - 27 May 2005 20:46 GMT
Neil Truby said:
> <mweallans@panacea.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1117209558.065406.202840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> we all told him that in our experience the users are haemorrhaging to SQL
> Server, not Oracle ...

Really? Things might work differently in the rest of the world than they
do in the US?

Can't see it myself.

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