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Database Forum / Informix Topics / August 2006Informix in the press...
Hi, You all want to see Informix in the press, so help IIUG achieving this goal by sending the following information to me: Name of journalist, e-mail, name of newspaper. Thanks -- jgp I'm not sure what you want; make your selection from the following list: 1. Informix is in the press and you want to know who wrote the article and where; 2. Request a specific journalist write an article about Informix in a particular paper. Mike Badar ESRI Professional Services Denver Region 1 International Court Broomfield, CO 80021-3200 303-449-7779 mbadar@esri.com www.esri.com > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > jgp I'm curious that you don't know who to contact. Any good computer magazine will do, simply contact their editor. Or write the article yourself and submit it. I'm also curious that you would be doing the work that IBM, and the work that Informix people at IBM should be doing. Of course it would be a shocker that those lazy lumps of sh.t would do anything to promote the product. That would be a news story by itself. Hi, You're completely wrong. IIUG has started a communications program and we send our Press Releases to the press. By "our press releases", I mean "our press releases", not the ones from IBM, not the ones from our sponsors, not the ones from Oracle. IIUG is doing some communications to enhance its visibility in the Informix world and among the Informix users. Nothing else. Now, I need contacts, of course, I could send it blindly to any editor of any news paper. Sure, the Tampa Gazette or whatever will be very thankful to me to send Informix news. I need contacts within the IT press. As I live in France, I did the work of digging for journalists here and found quite a few of them. Now, I also read some of the foreign press, but surely not the UK press or the German press... I have friends in Taiwan and I know nothing about their editors. I was hoping that this community could help me build a bigger network to help promote our organization. That's why I need: > > Name of journalist, > > e-mail, > > name of newspaper. (and basically, in the context of this program, I don't care what IBM is doing). Any help would be great. Thanks. > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list From the keyboard of "Jean Georges Perrin" <jgp@iiug.org>: [...] > That's why I need: >> > Name of journalist, >> > e-mail, >> > name of newspaper. THE magazine for professional IT in Germany: http://www.heise.de/mediadaten/ix/en/ > Any help would be great. HTH Christian  Signature#include <std_disclaimer.h> /* The opinions stated above are my own and not necessarily those of my employer. */ What *Press Releases" have the IIUG *already* sent to the "Press"? -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Jean Georges Perrin Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:11 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: RE: Informix in the press... Hi, You're completely wrong. IIUG has started a communications program and we send our Press Releases to the press. By "our press releases", I mean "our press releases", not the ones from IBM, not the ones from our sponsors, not the ones from Oracle. IIUG is doing some communications to enhance its visibility in the Informix world and among the Informix users. Nothing else. Now, I need contacts, of course, I could send it blindly to any editor of any news paper. Sure, the Tampa Gazette or whatever will be very thankful to me to send Informix news. I need contacts within the IT press. As I live in France, I did the work of digging for journalists here and found quite a few of them. Now, I also read some of the foreign press, but surely not the UK press or the German press... I have friends in Taiwan and I know nothing about their editors. I was hoping that this community could help me build a bigger network to help promote our organization. That's why I need: > > Name of journalist, > > e-mail, > > name of newspaper. (and basically, in the context of this program, I don't care what IBM is doing). Any help would be great. Thanks. > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list Neat stuff. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Jean Georges Perrin Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:42 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: RE: Informix in the press... See iiug.org/press a few others are in preparation, including some success stories... > -----Original Message----- > From: Hamilton, Jerry [mailto:hamiltoj@fleishman.com] [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Now, I need contacts, of course, I could send it blindly to any editor > of any news paper. Sure, the Tampa Gazette or whatever will be very > thankful to me to send Informix news. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > I'm curious that you don't know who to contact. Any good computer > > magazine will do, simply contact their editor. Or write the article > > yourself and submit it. > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list sorry mate do not have a name of a journalist, however these folks print a lot about it stuff. mainly obstacle. http://www.computable.nl/ because it´s mainly obstacle, check and tripple check your story so it does not blow up in your face. Sorry thats all i can do for you See you Superboer. Jean Georges Perrin schreef: > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > jgp Hello JPG, i saw a press release about security bug fixes... well its the first news in years so i guess its more then nothing; people see informix is still alive. Thanks mate!!! Superboer. BTW a positive article would be nice too!!!!!!! specially a story about cisco???!!! if possible Superboer schreef: > sorry mate do not have a name of a journalist, > however these folks print a lot about it stuff. mainly obstacle. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > -- > > jgp Thanks for your nice comment, but I am not responsible of it... I am working on positive articles as well :)... BTW, it's JGP, not JPeG. > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list Sometimes wonders take a little bit longer: http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=154242 A press release from IBM mentioning Informix. Great !! > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > jgp > Sometimes wonders take a little bit longer: > > http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=154242 > > A press release from IBM mentioning Informix. Great !! Excellent! Now, how about taking the 90-day timeout feature out of the download for Informix. I'm excited about Informix, interested in the product, so I go to download it like DB2. I noticed DB2 does not have the 90-day timeout. I want the full download for Informix just like DB2, no timeout, same thing as if I bought it. Do I have the IIUG to thank for the 90-day timeout? >> Sometimes wonders take a little bit longer: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > for Informix just like DB2, no timeout, same thing as if I bought it. Do > I have the IIUG to thank for the 90-day timeout? My understanding is the opposite: about a year ago the IIUG and IBM withdrew free downloads for IDS because they *didn't* have the 90-day bomb which is standard for products emenating from IBM. They understandably didn;t want to retro-fit the bomb to old realeases but did include it in later 9.40, and 10 developments and reinstated the trial versions. If you're saying that DB2 has had the bomb removed - that's news to me! DB2 never had the bomb. IIUG still offers 9.3/9.4 on Linux / Windows. On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:20:50 +0100, Neil Truby wrote > >> Sometimes wonders take a little bit longer: > >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list -- jgp SignatureNeil Truby t:01932 724027 Director m:07798 811708 Ardenta Limited e:neil.truby@ardenta.com > DB2 never had the bomb. > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > -- > jgp > DB2 never had the bomb. Are you sure? The IDS trial download disappeared without explanation from IBM site, and Stuart Litel was asked to do the same for the ones on the IIUG site. When pressed the explanation was that they didn;t contain the 90-day bomb and was thus not consistent with DB2. >> DB2 never had the bomb. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > When pressed the explanation was that they didn;t contain the 90-day bomb > and was thus not consistent with DB2. DB2 always had a message pop up every time you started DB2, counting the days down from 90. Now, no DB2 build I work with in the lab ever lasts 90 days, so I don't know whether DB2 simply stops working or just keeps nagging after 90 days. Cheers Serge SignatureSerge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab IOD Conference http://www.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/ Serge, you are tempting fate with such statements :) On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:50:29 -0400, Serge Rielau wrote > >> DB2 never had the bomb. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Cheers > Serge -- jgp > Serge, you are tempting fate with such statements :) I know. I just "admitted" that my DB2 uptime is < 90 days ;-) But IDS wouldn't help me. My Windows uptime is so much shorter. Cheers Serge SignatureSerge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab IOD Conference http://www.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/ I know clearly what happened with the IDS download and the IIUG - both times this issue came up, it was vetoed by the IIUG president. Two different IBM resources worked very hard to get a "bomb-free" copy of IDS to post on the download sites. One was the IBM liason to the board at the time, the other the IDS product manager. In both cases, the IIUG president, Stuart Litel, vetoed doing the download the way that the 2 IBM resources had worked up. The first time, there was quite the argument about "users will not want to fill out forms to get the download...", and the idea went away. The IBM liason very shortly after left that post as she was very frustrated to have worked hard for many months to get a version that was available to the IIUG members, only to hit heavy resistance. The second time the "bomb-free" version was proposed by the at the time IDS product manager, again, Stuart vetoed it. I really can't remember the reason why now, but I'm sure it will surface in this thread eventually. So in either case, IBM had offered a bomb-free download, only to get resistance from the IIUG president. I was there on both occassions, and if someone wants more detail, please contact me. I can get quotes from both resources if necessary. I encourage the Informix community to press the IIUG board for answers on this. As Neil stated, he did press for answers, but did not get any. Mark Scranton Informix 1995 - 2006 > > Serge, you are tempting fate with such statements :) > I know. I just "admitted" that my DB2 uptime is < 90 days ;-) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > IOD Conference > http://www.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/ You know, regardless of all the detail being argued about concerning this topic, the bottom line is simple....there is STILL no bomb-free offering via the IIUG to the Informix community. Is this true, or did I miss that announcement somewhere? If not, why not? Thanks - Mark. > I know clearly what happened with the IDS download and the IIUG - both > times this issue came up, it was vetoed by the IIUG president. Two [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > IOD Conference > > http://www.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/ Mark, Thanks for the information and background! I am still not sure why a bomb-free version is not available outside the IIUG. Can this also have some light shed on it? I don't need the IIUG to provide me with IDS, I simply want to download a bomb-free version from IBM. And quite honestly, when one looks at the competition, it baffles me why this is such an issue in today's market. By the way, for what it's worth, check this out: http://dev.mysql.com/ For those of you who think mysql is a joke, a few more releases and this product will be on a par with Informix, and without a time-out, license requirements, any of the nonsense put out by Christine or anyone else at IBM or the IIUG. It's not what _I_ say, it's out there standing on its own. Thanks! > I know clearly what happened with the IDS download and the IIUG - both > times this issue came up, it was vetoed by the IIUG president. Two [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> IOD Conference >> http://www.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/ > I know clearly what happened with the IDS download and the IIUG - both > times this issue came up, it was vetoed by the IIUG president. Two [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> IOD Conference >> http://www.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/ Why does IBM need IIUG to offer the bomb-free version? Oracle offers theirs from otn.oracle.com and Microsoft hosts their own and so does IBM with DB2. Why is Informix different? SignatureDaniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org IBM did not need IIUG to offer it. IIUG made a special request to IBM to provide them with an EXCLUSIVE non-time bombed version for member download. IBM did. IIUG failed to offer it to members because of IBM's requirement to register for downloads of it's software. I spoke with a senior IBM manager on Friday and asked that IBM look at offering the download themselves. As I stated in another post, the license does restrict use to IIUG members (again this was put in to provide IIUG a benefit not for any other reason and I did not feel it was too onerous since IIUG membership is no charge). Eventually, IBM could re-work the license, but that would take at a minimum until the next fixpack (the license has to get linked in). >> I know clearly what happened with the IDS download and the IIUG - >> both [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > theirs from otn.oracle.com and Microsoft hosts their own and so does > IBM with DB2. Why is Informix different? >>> DB2 never had the bomb. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >90 days, so I don't know whether DB2 simply stops working or just keeps >nagging after 90 days. . . . did I read this right? Nah, too easy . . . .. 8-) JWC The version of IDS v10 without the timeout was made available to the IIUG exclusively for IIUG members to download. IBM requires that individuals register when they want to download a product. Stuart Litel has refused to make the non-timelimited code available because of this IBM restriction (even though IBM was willing to provide the hosting service.) It's interesting that you say you have trial code for DB2 that is non- limited. Could you please provide the link where you obtained it? >> Sometimes wonders take a little bit longer: >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list Christine Normile Analyst INFORMRme Magazine 1.800.914.8674 Ext. 713 1.210.438.7736 mobile christine@MyINFORM-me.com Are you kidding me! http://www.ibm.com/software/data/db2/udb/db2express/ DUH! It's free to download and run in production! This was my complaint at the Tampa conference, why does IBM let you download and run DB2 in production but not IDS! IDS Express needs to be offered as a free download just like DB2 express. You work for IBM? WTF! > The version of IDS v10 without the timeout was made available to the > IIUG exclusively for IIUG members to download. IBM requires that [quoted text clipped - 166 lines] > > --Apple-Mail-1--632916718-- > Are you kidding me! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You work for IBM? WTF! Please show a little respect. She doesn't have to contribute at all. And if I were her, given the abuse, I wouldn't bother. And then we'd be all be less informed .... > The version of IDS v10 without the timeout was made available to the > IIUG exclusively for IIUG members to download. IBM requires that > individuals register when they want to download a product. Stuart Litel > has refused to make the non-timelimited code available because of this > IBM restriction (even though IBM was willing to provide the hosting > service.) So that's just the IIUG's deal. They can do what they like. For what it's worth I don't understand what user privacy has to do with a timebomb in the software but ok. I seem to recall that the IIUG version also was crippled in the number of connections or some other deliberate crippling. But it really doesn't matter, I want the real deal not some crippled crap. Hell I can get production ready databases for DB2, Sybase, Oracle, MySQL, there's no reason I should be using Informix if it's not the real deal. Who cares what the IIUG did, what is IBM going to do? > It's interesting that you say you have trial code for DB2 that is > non-limited. Could you please provide the link where you obtained it? I got it off of IBM a year ago or so, never timed out. Can still use it today no problem. Got it for Windows and Linux, no timebombs. I agree with you. IBM should provide IDS Express-C under the same terms and conditions as DB2 Express-C. It would help bolster interest in the product and raise it's visibility in the marketplace. > Double Echo wrote: > I seem to recall that the IIUG version also was crippled > in the number of connections or some other deliberate crippling. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > there's > no reason I should be using Informix if it's not the real deal. > Sometimes wonders take a little bit longer: > > http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=154242 > > A press release from IBM mentioning Informix. Great !! Go Ron Flannery! Go Cindy Lichtenauer! Go IBM! Go Informix! Art S. Kagel I altered my DB2 pop-up message to say: "I hate DB2" -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Serge Rielau Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:50 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix in the press... Neil Truby wrote: >> DB2 never had the bomb. > > Are you sure? > The IDS trial download disappeared without explanation from IBM site, > and Stuart Litel was asked to do the same for the ones on the IIUG site. > When pressed the explanation was that they didn;t contain the 90-day > bomb and was thus not consistent with DB2. DB2 always had a message pop up every time you started DB2, counting the days down from 90. Now, no DB2 build I work with in the lab ever lasts 90 days, so I don't know whether DB2 simply stops working or just keeps nagging after 90 days. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab IOD Conference http://www.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/ _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list If I remember correctly, the biggest concern of the board was protecting the IIUG members personal information, and IBM had to collect that information for some legal reasons so there was a conflict of responsibilities. Stuart and the Board work very hard to keep our member information private. Which is in line with the Charter: ... Article XII. CODE OF ETHICS A. IIUG membership information shall be kept confidential and shall be used only as approved by the Board of Directors of the Organization. ... Hopefully, that was not a secret, but hell, both sides were in the right in their own way, and a lot of work was put into it by IBM, and a lot of thought and fairly heated discussion by the board. -- Sam Gentsch office (334)768-7039 cell (706)289-6710 -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Jean Georges Perrin Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:39 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix in the press... Christine, In your statement, please substitute "Stuart Litel" by "the IIUG Board of Directors", also you description of the process lacks quite some points (and steps!) and a description of the situation! So please, be honest or refrain putting such statement in public. Thanks. jgp On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:37:05 -0500, Christine Normile wrote > The version of IDS v10 without the timeout was made available to the > IIUG exclusively for IIUG members to download. IBM requires that individuals register when they want to download a product. Stuart Litel has refused to make the non-timelimited code available because of this IBM restriction (even though IBM was willing to provide the hosting service.) > > It's interesting that you say you have trial code for DB2 that is non-limited. Could you please provide the link where you obtained it? > On Aug 18, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Double Echo wrote: > eric@herber-consulting.de wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > 1.210.438.7736 mobile > christine@MyINFORM-me.com -- jgp _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list What? When? I didn't noticed IDS 10 was offered to iiug members! J. -----Original Message----- From: Christine Normile <christine@myinform-me.com> To: doubleecho@your.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:37:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Informix in the press... The version of IDS v10 without the timeout was made available to the IIUG exclusively for IIUG members to download. IBM requires that individuals register when they want to download a product. Stuart Litel has refused to make the non-timelimited code available because of this IBM restriction (even though IBM was willing to provide the hosting service.) It's interesting that you say you have trial code for DB2 that is non- limited. Could you please provide the link where you obtained it? On Aug 18, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Double Echo wrote: > eric@herber-consulting.de wrote: >> Sometimes wonders take a little bit longer: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list Christine Normile Analyst INFORMRme Magazine 1.800.914.8674 Ext. 713 1.210.438.7736 mobile christine@MyINFORM-me.com Jean Sagi jeansagi@myrealbox.com jeansagi@gmail.com YES! YES!, I'm with you !! Free IDS 10 express download without bombs !!. This allowed me to study, learn and program for IDS. J. -----Original Message----- From: "Roy Mercer" <roy.mercer@gmail.com> To: informix-list@iiug.org Date: 18 Aug 2006 08:51:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Informix in the press... Are you kidding me! http://www.ibm.com/software/data/db2/udb/db2express/ DUH! It's free to download and run in production! This was my complaint at the Tampa conference, why does IBM let you download and run DB2 in production but not IDS! IDS Express needs to be offered as a free download just like DB2 express. You work for IBM? WTF! Christine Normile wrote: > The version of IDS v10 without the timeout was made available to the > IIUG exclusively for IIUG members to download. IBM requires that [quoted text clipped - 169 lines] > > --Apple-Mail-1--632916718-- _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list Jean Sagi jeansagi@myrealbox.com jeansagi@gmail.com Maybe the e-mails are what pays for the free dinners.?.?.? -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Christine Normile Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:25 PM To: doubleecho@your.com Cc: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Informix in the press... I find that so frightening that I'm almost stunned to complete silence. But I will need to fight that urge simply because Stuart Litel feels compelled to complain to IBM regarding my participation in the SIGs. Stuart - no need to take this e-mail to dinner with IBM next time, I'm cc-ing Bernie on my notes now. On Aug 21, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Double Echo wrote: > I love it... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > :-) _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list I dunno, I think I like JPeG. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Jean Georges Perrin Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:53 AM To: 'Superboer'; informix-list@iiug.org Subject: RE: Informix in the press... Thanks for your nice comment, but I am not responsible of it... I am working on positive articles as well :)... BTW, it's JGP, not JPeG. > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > ... > Would have been a great thing. > ... I hope it will be, some day ... J. -----Original Message----- From: "mark.scranton@gmail.com" <mark.scranton@gmail.com> To: informix-list@iiug.org Date: 28 Aug 2006 16:14:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Informix in the press... All - I was involved in the discussion about the "free version of IDS for the development community...." (Mar 2006 timeframe). It got axed due to a potential small loss of potential revenue. My response to the attendees was simple....I said "...we could can generate 100 times the revenue you are concerned about losing if we would quit saying the DB2 is better than XPS!". Some of the crowd wasn't amused, some I know agreed with me. Regardless, it did not change the plan NOT to offer a free version of IDS in the hopes of stimulating the developer community. My comments got misconstrued and changed "dramatically" by someone eavesdropping on the call (and a a few of us are very aware of who that was), and by the time they got "up the ladder", all kinds of interesting things were being said. So I was again disappointing at the nixing of a potential great marketing tool AND the chance to get IDS spread into the developer community. Would have been a great thing. Thanks - Mark. Hamilton, Jerry wrote: > I dunno, I think I like JPeG. > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list Jean Sagi jeansagi@myrealbox.com jeansagi@gmail.com Well here's one that at least mentions IDS... http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060829/0158249.html Brian Grellinger I.S. Manager Doosan Infracore America Corp Information Systems >>> "Hamilton, Jerry" <hamiltoj@fleishman.com> 08/27/06 15:30 PM >>> I dunno, I think I like JPeG. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Jean Georges Perrin Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:53 AM To: 'Superboer'; informix-list@iiug.org Subject: RE: Informix in the press... Thanks for your nice comment, but I am not responsible of it... I am working on positive articles as well :)... BTW, it's JGP, not JPeG. > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list |
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