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Using Ingres with xterm

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Mike Yudaken - 19 May 2005 12:23 GMT
I've made some minor changes to this (it wasn't
installing properly):

  http://www.cynaps.co.za/f/ingres_xterm_1.3.tgz

Also, www.cynaps.co.za is up now.

Mike
J. F. Cornwall - 19 May 2005 14:06 GMT
> I've made some minor changes to this (it wasn't
> installing properly):
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Mike

Yes, it is "up".  What does it do besides show us your name, contact
info, a counter, and half a head?  What does your tarball do?

:-)

Jim
Mike Yudaken - 20 May 2005 08:37 GMT
>> I've made some minor changes to this (it wasn't
>> installing properly):
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Jim

It helps you use Ingres with xterm!

Mike
J. F. Cornwall - 21 May 2005 23:37 GMT
>>>I've made some minor changes to this (it wasn't
>>>installing properly):
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Mike

Well, I use xterm windows opened from my PC (running Reflection X and
making an openssh connection) to our development Solaris machines half a
continent away.  In these xterms, I write and run database apps that are
connecting to and doing stuff in an Ingres database.  I can run ipm,
isql, tsql, and our organization's applications in these xterms.  What
am I missing out on that your stuff will help me with?

Yes, I am being a bit smart-assed here, but with a more serious point
embedded in there.  How does your audience (whatever it might be) know
about your stuff, unless you tell them somehow?  Your website does not
tell me, a curious and possibly interested Ingres person, what good it
might do.  Your post does not tell me either.  I presume you wrote
whatever it is you wrote for a purpose.  Maybe to sell?  Maybe to give
away and bask in the glorious accolades of delighted users?  Maybe to
serve as a thesis for an advanced degree?  I don't know!  That's the
point, your site looked nice but was very nearly devoid of information.
 Since some of us are not allowed to freely download software and
install stuff just to try it out (let alone to figure out what it
is...), having a little bit of actual information on the website would
be a very nice touch...

Jim
Mike Yudaken - 23 May 2005 09:31 GMT
>>>>I've made some minor changes to this (it wasn't
>>>>installing properly):
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Jim


Ok, maybe I was being a bit lazy but this is really a
very simple thing - ingres_xterm contains termcap definitions
and a FRS mapping file for xterm & gnome_terminal.

If your xterm works with Ingres, then you don't need this.  My
xterm didn't work with ipm, netutil, cbf etc - the function keys
were disabled and it was impossible to do certain things without
them which is why I wrote ingres_xterm.

After doing some digging, it appears there are quite a few
flavours of xterm so let me be more specific - ingres_xterm_1.3
only works with the following xterm's:
    XFree86 xterm
    gnome-terminal on x86 PC's
It also works on the following (except for line drawing):
    SCO OpenServer xterm
    KDE Konsole on x86 PC's

Mike

   
Jim Cornwall - 23 May 2005 14:02 GMT
>>>>>I've made some minor changes to this (it wasn't
>>>>>installing properly):
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
>
> Mike

Thank you.  I appreciate the info.  My xterm is the default provided
with Sun's Solaris (I couldn't find anything more specific in the man
page and I have enough actual work to do that I won't dig more...).  No
problems with function keys, thankfully.

Jim
Gerhard Hofmann - 27 May 2005 15:16 GMT
 >
> Thank you.  I appreciate the info.  My xterm is the default provided
> with Sun's Solaris (I couldn't find anything more specific in the man
> page and I have enough actual work to do that I won't dig more...).  No
> problems with function keys, thankfully.

Even if your xterm is not aware of function keys, there is a
little-known workaround for isql, ipm and all the other stuff: just hit
<ESC> than OP (capital letters are important, hold down the <SHIFT> key)
and the cursor will jump down to the buttom right region of the program,
you can just type in the the desired command, for example "go".

Regards
Gerhard
Michael Leo - 27 May 2005 18:04 GMT
>  >
>>Thank you.  I appreciate the info.  My xterm is the default
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Regards
>Gerhard

Gerhard,

It is little known, but, as a consultant jumping from one customer's
machine to another, it is now my habit!

Funny thing is, most of the time I don't really need to do it, but
my mind and fingers have other plans ...

BTW, Esc-OP, Esc-OQ, EscOR work nicely for the top three PF1/PF2/PF3
keys in EDT on VMS, if you your term is two braindead to map them
correctly.

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James Higson - 28 May 2005 02:15 GMT
Excellent !!
That's the best little undocumented feature I have seen all year.
Thanks Gerhard.

-----Original Message-----
From: info-ingres-admin@cariboulake.com
[mailto:info-ingres-admin@cariboulake.com] On Behalf Of Gerhard Hofmann
Sent: Saturday, 28 May 2005 00:17
To: info-ingres@cariboulake.com
Subject: [Info-ingres] Re: Using Ingres with xterm

Jim Cornwall wrote:
 >
> Thank you.  I appreciate the info.  My xterm is the default provided
> with Sun's Solaris (I couldn't find anything more specific in the man
> page and I have enough actual work to do that I won't dig more...).  No
> problems with function keys, thankfully.

Even if your xterm is not aware of function keys, there is a
little-known workaround for isql, ipm and all the other stuff: just hit
<ESC> than OP (capital letters are important, hold down the <SHIFT> key)
and the cursor will jump down to the buttom right region of the program,
you can just type in the the desired command, for example "go".

Regards
Gerhard

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