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Ingres - Locations, Locations, Locations

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Colin Hay - 26 Jun 2007 09:10 GMT
I want to create a 2.6 database from my Windows PC, residing on the
office network (the H: drive)

I create the location in accessdb

ii_cmt   H:\IngresII

and set its usage to y y y y y

I then create all the relevant folders

H:\IngresII\ingres\data\default
H:\IngresII\ingres\ckp\default
H:\IngresII\ingres\jnl\default
H:\IngresII\ingres\dmp\default
H:\IngresII\ingres\work\default

but when I try to

createdb fin_dev_700 -dii_cmt

I get

E_DM0080 Location's area does not exist or cannot be used.

Huh ?!?

Colin Hay
Peter Gale - 26 Jun 2007 09:23 GMT
Hi Colin,

What are the underlying messages in errlog.log?

Peter Gale

> I want to create a 2.6 database from my Windows PC, residing on the
> office network (the H: drive)
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Colin Hay - 26 Jun 2007 09:52 GMT
> Hi Colin,
>
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Good question

WORKSTAT::[II\INGRES\788     , 00ab51a0]: Tue Jun 26 18:05:17 2007
E_CL0610_DI_DIRNOTFOUND    The directory pointed to path could not be
found list() failed with operating system error 3 (The system cannot
find the path specified.)
WORKSTAT::[II\INGRES\788     , 00ab51a0]: Tue Jun 26 18:05:17 2007
E_DM91A8_DMM_LOCV_DILISTDIR    An unexpected error was encountered in the
DIlistdir() routine.  This error was encountered while trying to
validate either the II_WORK, II_DATABASE,  and/or the auxiliary work
location.  The following pathname caused the error (H:\IngresII\ingres
\data\default).  Check that the path exists and that permissions on
all parts of the path allow access to the ingres user.

I created the folders as myself, not as my local ingres user - does it
matter on Windows though ?

Colin
Peter Gale - 26 Jun 2007 10:05 GMT
It would seem so. I have a vague recollection of problems with directory
permissions.
At the very least make sure Ingres has write access and preferably Ingres
should own the directories. Also Ingres needs to be a local user on your PC
as well and not a domain user IIRC.

Peter

> > Hi Colin,
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Jean-Pierre Zuate, La Fage Conseil - 26 Jun 2007 10:08 GMT
Hello,

As far as I know when you create a location the area is created by Ingres
itself. I've just do this test on Ingres 2.6 / HP-UX.

So the question is : what directory do you create manualy ?

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2007/6/26, Colin Hay <wobble7@hotmail.com>:

>
> > Hi Colin,
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Richard Harden - 26 Jun 2007 10:24 GMT
Hi Colin,

Also, looking at your errors below, there looks to be a space in the
location name

"                                                          |
The following pathname caused the error (H:\IngresII\ingres \data\default).
"
So it might be the data location entered


Cheers

Richard

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[mailto:info-ingres-bounces@kettleriverconsulting.com] On Behalf Of Colin
Hay
Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2007 8:53 p.m.
To: info-ingres@kettleriverconsulting.com
Subject: Re: [Info-Ingres] Ingres - Locations, Locations, Locations

On Jun 26, 6:23 pm, "Peter Gale" <pgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Colin,
>
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Good question

WORKSTAT::[II\INGRES\788     , 00ab51a0]: Tue Jun 26 18:05:17 2007
E_CL0610_DI_DIRNOTFOUND    The directory pointed to path could not be
found list() failed with operating system error 3 (The system cannot find
the path specified.)
WORKSTAT::[II\INGRES\788     , 00ab51a0]: Tue Jun 26 18:05:17 2007
E_DM91A8_DMM_LOCV_DILISTDIR    An unexpected error was encountered in the
DIlistdir() routine.  This error was encountered while trying to validate
either the II_WORK, II_DATABASE,  and/or the auxiliary work location.  The
following pathname caused the error (H:\IngresII\ingres \data\default).
Check that the path exists and that permissions on all parts of the path
allow access to the ingres user.

I created the folders as myself, not as my local ingres user - does it
matter on Windows though ?

Colin

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Colin Hay - 26 Jun 2007 10:39 GMT
On Jun 26, 7:24 pm, "Richard Harden" <richard.har...@orcon.net.nz>
wrote:
> Hi Colin,
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Hmmmm - the plot thickens

Dropped the location and created it again as ingres on my workstation

Accessdb lets you create locations on drives that don't even exist !

Once I had mapped my H: drive as ingres, I dropped and recreated the
location OK
although no folders are created automatically

the createdb still fails

The pathname doesn't have any spaces in it - so its not that

So maybe I do have to create the folders manually if they are on a
network drive, and they do have to be created as ingres ?

One last go ...

Colin
Colin Hay - 26 Jun 2007 10:52 GMT
> On Jun 26, 7:24 pm, "Richard Harden" <richard.har...@orcon.net.nz>
> wrote:
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I recreated the location as ingres with attendant folders owned by
ingres but still no joy ....

According to the 2.6 dba guide the folders are only created upon
createdb,
- though accessdb should still check the path name before on Save I
reckon ....

I just created an alternate location for my C: drive and the createdb -
d worked fine

So ... it looks like a permission problem with mapped drives ?

Running Ingres 2.6/0305 unpatched

Colin
Gareth Williams - 26 Jun 2007 13:58 GMT
Perhaps you've tried some of this...

You'll need permissions on the shared drives of what ever the Ingres
service is running as. Normally this would be a local account to the
Server/PC. But in this case you'd need to go to windows -> services and
change all the ingres services logons to a user who can connect to the
DOMAIN the remote share is on.

Have you tried using the unc path instead of drive names e.g.
\\remoteserver\ingres

Cheers

Gareth

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Sent: 26 June 2007 10:52
To: info-ingres@kettleriverconsulting.com
Subject: Re: [Info-Ingres] Ingres - Locations, Locations, Locations

> On Jun 26, 7:24 pm, "Richard Harden" <richard.har...@orcon.net.nz>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Colin,
>
> > Also, looking at your errors below, there looks to be a space in the

> > location name
>
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> > E_CL0610_DI_DIRNOTFOUND The directory pointed to path could not be
> > found list() failed with operating system error 3 (The system cannot

> > find the path specified.)
> > WORKSTAT::[II\INGRES\788     , 00ab51a0]: Tue Jun 26 18:05:17 2007
> > E_DM91A8_DMM_LOCV_DILISTDIR     An unexpected error was encountered in the
> > DIlistdir() routine.  This error was encountered while trying to
> > validate either the II_WORK, II_DATABASE,  and/or the auxiliary work

> > location.  The following pathname caused the error
(H:\IngresII\ingres \data\default).
> > Check that the path exists and that permissions on all parts of the
> > path allow access to the ingres user.
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I recreated the location as ingres with attendant folders owned by
ingres but still no joy ....

According to the 2.6 dba guide the folders are only created upon
createdb,
- though accessdb should still check the path name before on Save I
reckon ....

I just created an alternate location for my C: drive and the createdb -
d worked fine

So ... it looks like a permission problem with mapped drives ?

Running Ingres 2.6/0305 unpatched

Colin

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Colin Hay - 27 Jun 2007 03:10 GMT
On Jun 26, 10:58 pm, "Gareth Williams" <Gareth.Willi...@bromor-
tr.wales.nhs.uk> wrote:
> Perhaps you've tried some of this...
>
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I tried the UNC path to no avail - every user has their own H: drive
mapping which points to a user specific location so we can't use the
UNC path anyway

I ensured all priviledges are OK for colinh and ingres on my domain
and ingres on my workstation also to no avail ....

Very strange ....

Colin
On Web - 27 Jun 2007 08:27 GMT
On Jun 26, 10:58 pm, "Gareth Williams" <Gareth.Willi...@bromor-
tr.wales.nhs.uk> wrote:
> Perhaps you've tried some of this...
>
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>I tried the UNC path to no avail - every user has their own H: drive
>mapping which points to a user specific location so we can't use the
>UNC path anyway

Isn't this the answer? The server will be running as the ingres user and
have a different H: drive to you.

>I ensured all priviledges are OK for colinh and ingres on my domain
>and ingres on my workstation also to no avail ....

>Very strange ....

>Colin

If  you are doing things with relation to the ingres database server, always
do them as the ingres user, rather than your own user (which is asking for
trouble).

Paul
simonl@unwired.com.au - 27 Jun 2007 08:59 GMT
All this begs the question: why would you want to do such a strange
thing?

Shouldn't the dbms server and the disk controller be on the same bus?

SAN systems are a pretty dubious idea for the DBMS server.

If you want a private database for each person, it would be easier to
set it up on the local PC.  If you don't want to do that, why not just
set up a db on the server for that user.

> On Jun 26, 10:58 pm, "Gareth Williams" <Gareth.Willi...@bromor-
> tr.wales.nhs.uk> wrote:
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> Paul
Paul Mason - 26 Jun 2007 09:59 GMT
> I want to create a 2.6 database from my Windows PC, residing on the
> office network (the H: drive)
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> H:\IngresII\ingres\dmp\default
> H:\IngresII\ingres\work\default

I'm suspicious about this part - you haven't had to manually create the
directories for a few versions now. Try deleting the location and then
re-add it but let Ingres create the directories.

but when I try to

> createdb fin_dev_700 -dii_cmt
>
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>
> Colin Hay

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