Anybody experimenting with Symfony?

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Mladen Gogala - 11 Apr 2008 21:27 GMT

I was experimenting a bit with symfony (http://www.symfony-project.org)
a freeware application generator more potent then APEX. It is easy to
add bells and whistles but not so easy to change queries generated by
the propel ORM (Object-Relational Mapper. Yeah, this is a PHP version
of Hibernate). The documentation is, in my opinion, fairly attrocious.
Any oraclites with some more experience?

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vitalisman@gmail.com - 12 Apr 2008 11:20 GMT

> I was experimenting a bit with symfony (http://www.symfony-project.org)
> a freeware application generator more potent then APEX. It is easy to
> add bells and whistles but not so easy to change queries generated by
> the propel ORM (Object-Relational Mapper. Yeah, this is a PHP version
> of Hibernate). The documentation is, in my opinion, fairly attrocious.
> Any oraclites with some more experience?

Not me.
But the only demo on their site is really basic. Can symfony really
generate professional front-ends to databases?

http://www.symfony-project.org/demo/cart

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Mladen Gogala - 12 Apr 2008 11:26 GMT

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:20:44 -0700, vitalisman wrote:

>> I was experimenting a bit with symfony (http://www.symfony-project.org)
>> a freeware application generator more potent then APEX. It is easy to
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> http://www.symfony-project.org/demo/cart

It can generate very good front ends. What I am having trouble with is
customization. For instance, I am unable to modify the front end so that
I can use "contains" or even achieve case insensitivity (upper/lower).
The documentation is, despite the book, really inadequate.

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yossarian - 23 Apr 2008 13:38 GMT

> It can generate very good front ends. What I am having trouble with is
> customization. For instance, I am unable to modify the front end so that
> I can use "contains" or even achieve case insensitivity (upper/lower).
> The documentation is, despite the book, really inadequate.

I'm playing with the sandbox project, your great symfony_yaml script and
the SCOTT schema at this time. It seems that the system assumes that all
primary keys in the schema are surrogate keys. It would be nice to find
and easy way to generate frontends with editable natural primary keys
and row fetched by ROWIDs.

Y.

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Galen Boyer - 12 Apr 2008 14:53 GMT

> I was experimenting a bit with symfony
> (http://www.symfony-project.org) a freeware application generator more
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> is, in my opinion, fairly attrocious. Any oraclites with some more
> experience?

One thing I like is that it looks like they actually generate code which
is then compiled as part of your app? Is this true?

If so, it would mean you could just edit those things by hand if you
ever needed.

Most of these type of thingys have a runtime server that does all of
this type of stuff as "magic".

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Mladen Gogala - 12 Apr 2008 16:50 GMT

>> I was experimenting a bit with symfony (http://www.symfony-project.org)
>> a freeware application generator more potent then APEX. It is easy to
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> Most of these type of thingys have a runtime server that does all of
> this type of stuff as "magic".

Actually, not so. Symfony generates PHP5 code, then interpreted by the
PHP5 module in your web server. It doesn't compile anything and the code
is rather complex.

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Puentes Diaz, Roberto G. (puentesdiaz@gmail.com) - 30 Jul 2008 15:10 GMT

hi !,

yes i'm user of symfony since last year.
but i'm newbie :D in oracle.

I read your http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/gogala-symfony.html
it' great post.

In your opinion is PHP a lider technology in oracle world?

cheers....

Roberto

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