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artmerar@yahoo.com - 29 Jul 2008 18:44 GMT
Hi,

We just migrated to Oracle 10g, from 8i.  We had one question about
UNDO.  The documentation states that the UNDO table space keeps the
'undo' information for whatever time you specify and then writes it to
disk.

Does this mean that the rollback segments are no longer used and can
be removed/deleted from the system/init.ora?
sybrandb@hccnet.nl - 29 Jul 2008 18:57 GMT
>Hi,
>
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>Does this mean that the rollback segments are no longer used and can
>be removed/deleted from the system/init.ora?

undo segments succeed rollback segments.
If you use undo segments you'll don't need rollback segments  anymore.

Hth
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Palooka - 29 Jul 2008 20:33 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Does this mean that the rollback segments are no longer used and can
> be removed/deleted from the system/init.ora?

Basically, yes. As I understand it, one merely specifies an undo
tablespace of sufficient size and lets oracle get on with it. Parameters
are UNDO_MANAGEMENT=AUTO and UNDO_TABLESPACE. Forget rollback segments.

It's useful to look up UNDO_RETENTION too.

And btw, these days it's probably a good idea to use an spfile rather
than an init.ora.

Palooka
Mladen Gogala - 30 Jul 2008 13:09 GMT
> Does this mean that the rollback segments are no longer used and can
> be removed/deleted from the system/init.ora?

You really should get out more.

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Mark D Powell - 30 Jul 2008 13:38 GMT
> artme...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Does this mean that the rollback segments are no longer used and can
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> --http://mgogala.freehostia.com

LOL, English translation, you should open your DBA Administration
manual which contains information on setting up and managing the undo
tablespace.

-- Mark D Powell --
 
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