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what is concept of table in Oracle

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fatshaw - 16 Sep 2008 09:29 GMT
i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
relations to segment?
gazzag - 16 Sep 2008 10:22 GMT
> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
> relations to segment?

Indeed.  A table is made up of segments which, in turn, are made up of
extents.

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14220/intro.htm#sthref63

HTH

-g
DA Morgan - 16 Sep 2008 14:28 GMT
>> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
>> relations to segment?
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>
> -g

Correction. A segment is made up of extents which are made up of
blocks. The only table types made up of segments are partitioned
and IOT. A heap table is always a single segment.
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gazzag - 16 Sep 2008 14:33 GMT
> >> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
> >> relations to segment?
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> damor...@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
> Puget Sound Oracle Users Groupwww.psoug.org

Agreed.  You're always far more on the ball earlier on in the day than
I am, Daniel ;)

-g
fitzjarrell@cox.net - 16 Sep 2008 14:47 GMT
> > >> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
> > >> relations to segment?
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It's that Starbuck's IV, I think ...

<g>

David Fitzjarrell
DA Morgan - 16 Sep 2008 23:21 GMT
>>>>> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
>>>>> relations to segment?
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> David Fitzjarrell

When they hear the word drip some people think:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drip_brew
other think:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intravenous_therapy
When you get to be my age you think:
http://www.santabarbara.com/Dining/review_read.asp?pk_restaurant=1037
Why not both?

One hour and I'm off to OpenWorld.

And if you find your way to the right suite in the St. Regis on
Thursday, at the right time, you will get to meet the "Secret
Millionaire."
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joel garry - 17 Sep 2008 00:45 GMT
> When you get to be my age you think:http://www.santabarbara.com/Dining/review_read.asp?pk_restaurant=1037

When I lived in IV we had Mr. Moustache falafels and Borsodi's for
Xylophone fans.  And I somehow can't quite remember the place that had
the 50 cent Pabst Blue Ribbon in big plastic cups...  I see zillow.com
has both ms and google links to the places I lived there, amazing how
little they've changed.

What is concept of Under-The-Table in Oracle?  :-)

jg
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@home.com is bogus.
And now B of A is a really big bank.  http://www.leadpipeposters.com/images/0091.jpg
DA Morgan - 16 Sep 2008 23:16 GMT
>>>> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
>>>> relations to segment?
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> -g

Caffeine in the morning.
Scotch in the evening.
Don't get it confused. <g>
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gym dot scuba dot kennedy at gmail - 16 Sep 2008 11:53 GMT
>i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
> relations to segment?
Yes a table is a type of segment. So are indexes.
William Robertson - 17 Sep 2008 23:17 GMT
> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
> relations to segment?

A segment is just a thing in the database taking up physical space,
such as a table, index, cluster or undo segment. Don't worry about
segments.

Tables on the other hand are how all data in a relational database is
stored, managed, queried and presented. Asking what a table is in
Oracle is rather like asking what an object is in Java, or what a pipe
is in plumbing.
Palooka - 18 Sep 2008 00:32 GMT
>> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
>> relations to segment?
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> Oracle is rather like asking what an object is in Java, or what a pipe
> is in plumbing.
Agree. Much better for OP to think of a table as a purely logical thing,
and forget about the physical stuff for now.

To OP: Study entities/attributes/rows/tuples/relations and all the Codd
stuff. Only then worry about how Oracle physically implements tables.

Palooka
robert - 05 Oct 2008 23:20 GMT
> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
> relations to segment?

Hi if you will tolerate a post from a newbie to this group (though not a
newbie to Oracle).

I've often thought it is really surprising how tightly the Oracle
concept of table still conforms to the concepts presented in Codd's
original paper "A Relational Model of Data for Large Shared Data
Banks"(CACM, vol 13, no. 6).

So closely in fact that my thought is to simply point to this article
and claim that for all intents and purposes that IS still the concept of
table that Oracle (and every other modern RDBMS) uses.

I hesitate to provide a direct link because of possible copyright
issues, (though for a paper from 1970 there is probably no
problem!)...but just google the title and you'll find a copy ....
Donkey Hottie - 06 Oct 2008 09:04 GMT
robert <robert@barbarian.thesecondnexus.net> wrote in news:48E93DBD.4050506
@barbarian.thesecondnexus.net:

> I hesitate to provide a direct link because of possible copyright
> issues, (though for a paper from 1970 there is probably no
> problem!)...but just google the title and you'll find a copy ....

How or why would a link violate copyrights?
robert - 06 Oct 2008 13:08 GMT
> robert <robert@barbarian.thesecondnexus.net> wrote in news:48E93DBD.4050506
> @barbarian.thesecondnexus.net:
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> How or why would a link violate copyrights?

Where did I say that publishing a link violates copyright?

I said there were issues. The issue is I don't want to voluntarily
create any link or association between myself and those that really DO
violate copyright.
Shakespeare - 06 Oct 2008 10:03 GMT
>> i want to know what is concept of table in Oracle?is there any
>> relations to segment?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> (though for a paper from 1970 there is probably no problem!)...but just
> google the title and you'll find a copy ....

I don't think the OP was aiming at this level of conceptuality......
and note that the post was dated sept 19 and the OP never responded to any
of the follow ups.

Shakespeare

Shakespeare
 
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